Read the article. Identify the author’s point of view (perspective) of the text. Explain how you know this using information from the passage. Do you feel the same way as the author? Please respond to two other student entries.
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Sofia
3/17/2015 07:25:05 am
I think that the author's perspective is that she thinks that the farm workers are getting treated fairly. She said that the farmers respect the workers hard work. I do not agree with that because of the video we saw in class. It showed that the farmers do not even care about the workers. The farmers won't even pay to provide shade to the workers. There was even a pregnant girl who died of heat stroke. I do not agree at all with the author's perspective at all.
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ryan
3/17/2015 07:35:51 am
Sofia I do not agree with you. I think that the author thinks that the farm workers are not being treated fairly.
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Minerva
3/17/2015 07:51:00 am
I do not agree because you did not provide any evidence, so I searched and nowhere does it state that the author thinks that the farm workers are getting treated fairly. Although, I do like your connnections.
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Natasha
3/17/2015 08:09:21 am
I disagree with you, Sofia. I think think that the authors perspective is correct. Just because some of California's farmers are mean and cruel, doesn't mean that all farmers are mean and cruel.
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nola
3/17/2015 08:42:32 am
I agree and disagree because after reading Minervas response and then yours it made me think it never said I agree or disagree so your not wrong. Except I don't think that the author would talk about the government or what is happening if she/he thinks that it is fair.
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ELENA
3/17/2015 08:49:17 am
The author thinks they are being treated badly not good. They are not being treated well.
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Julian
3/17/2015 07:32:33 am
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Julian
3/17/2015 07:45:08 am
Sorry, I accidentally pressed summit. Anyway, I think the authors perspective is that farmworkers have a problem and it is not being dealt with. Yes I do, because like Sofia said, the video showed us that the farmworkers are not treated properly and the owners don't even care about there conditions. Here is evidence. "The problem is not going away. Immigrant workers who came without permission years ago are retiring."
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Ryan
3/17/2015 07:34:18 am
I think that the authors point of view is to show that he or she cares for the farm workers. I think so because in the article the author is mostly writing about how there is a crisis for immigrant workers that have jobs on the farm. It is also about peoples opinions on things. Just like in the end some one said that they rely on the farm workers. I agree with the author though. I think that it is important to think about the farm workers and to care for them because they do so much for us.
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Natasha
3/17/2015 08:12:15 am
I agree with you, Ryan. The people do care about their farm workers. What if all the farm workers quit? That would be a crisis.
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Jay
3/17/2015 09:37:09 am
I agree with you Ryan because the author is showing that she cares of the workers by not wanting the people to change the law.
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Justine
3/17/2015 10:28:44 am
I agree with you because the farm workers harvest all of our food, so we should appreciate them.
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Wolfvoelker6789
3/17/2015 07:42:51 am
I think that the authors point of view about this is generally about young farmers and immigrant farmers but if I zoom in a bit than I think that the authors main point of view about this problem is if young and old immigrant farmers should be farming at all. If the author would write that the people who make law are arguing about this. If anyone wants my opinion it is that I do not think that anyone should be out in the fields all day in hot weather expending their energy to grueling farm work.(Has anyone noticed we have been doing a lot of newselas on farm workers?
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Minerva
3/17/2015 07:57:37 am
Interesting that you say that, Wolf. I didn't think the author really showed a point of view. She/he is being objective. Just laying out the facts and not really using any language or method that shows an opinion. My evidence is that the author states both points of view but does not give an opinion. My point of view is that I do not agree with the title "U.S. faces SHORTAGE of farmworkers due to fight over immigration." We have the workers. They are U.S. citizens. I have noticed that we have been doing many Newselas on farm workers. This is because Cesar Chavez's birthday is this month.
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Wolfvoelker6789
3/17/2015 08:04:34 am
You know Minerva, I was actually confused about what to say and I was on the verge of saying that!
nola
3/17/2015 08:31:49 am
Yes I agree Wolfvolker6789 I do think that the author thinks that old and young people are working in the feilds. I also read Minervas response which I thought was interesting because I guess it's true the author never states what there opinion is. Then I look back at your article and think man people really have different points of view on points of view. One dissent think that there is a point of view and the other states clearly what the author's opinion was.
Celeste
3/17/2015 11:43:25 am
I agree with both you and Wolf but think that it's quite funny that your response is longer then Wolf's comment.
Justine
3/17/2015 10:32:32 am
I do not agree with you because you said that the author was saying that he/ she doesn't think farming should be happening at all, but the author doesn't say anything about that.
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charlotte
3/17/2015 12:53:29 pm
I do not agree with your opinion about the farm workers, when you said that you don't think that anyone should be out in the fields all day in hot weather, because if no one harvests, then all of the fruits and vegetables that we eat will soon disappear. We'd have very little to eat.
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Minerva
3/17/2015 07:48:50 am
I don't think that the author is really showing an opinion. She/he is being objective. Just laying out the facts and not really using any language or method that shows an opinion. My evidence is: "Lynn Tramonte works for the group America’s Voice. It supports changing U.S. immigration laws to let in more immigrants. It also wants to let some people who came here illegally become citizens. She believes the need for immigrant farmworkers won't go away." and "Americans fill only about 5 out of every 100 farm jobs, Carr said. The other 95 are filled by immigrants. He said the U.S. must bring in workers to harvest food. The other choice is to import food.“Americans don’t want to do this work. It’s seasonal. It tends to be low-paying,” agreed Mark Gilson. He owns Gilson Gardens in Ohio, which relies on immigrant workers." The author states both points of view but does not give an opinion." My point of view is this: I do not agree with the title "U.S. faces SHORTAGE of farmworkers due to fight over immigration." There isn't really a shortage of farm workers in the U.S. because we Do have people. The U.S. does NOT have a population of 0. We have the people. We are relying on Mexico. What if Mexico didn't exist????? We would be helpless. I think that U.S. citizens should start to work on U.S. owned farms and not just Latinos. WE HAVE THE PEOPLE. Why shouldn't U.S. citizens work on farms?
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nola
3/17/2015 08:36:26 am
I agree so much it is Times a million. That is SO interesting because I would think that the author does have an opinion but it doesn't say so we can't say this is just really great. I love your response.
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Benicio Curiel
3/17/2015 08:45:31 am
I agree with you Minerva because the author didn't state a main idea.
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Aidan
3/17/2015 10:11:37 am
I agree with your very first sentence the author didn't really state a main idea or opinion.
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charlotte
3/17/2015 12:41:30 pm
I agree with you Minerva. Why shouldn't the US do farming work too? When you say that the author isn't really showing opinion, I think that the author isn't telling what she/he thinking, but you can sort of tell what the perspective is by noticing what topics are brought up a lot in the article, and what seems to be stated, but not really a big part.
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Natasha
3/17/2015 08:05:00 am
I think that the author's perspective is that the farm workers are being treated fairly. The author makes the farm owners sound like people in need, not villans. How I know this is because it says in the text, "Gilson of Ohio said the situation is tough, but farmers have a lot of respect for immigrant workers. ' These aren't just people with their heads down in the field for us,' he said. ' We respect their hard work." In the Fingers to the Bone video, it made the farm workers look like villans who don't care about their workers. Now, this article is trying to make us see them as people that need more workers. There is one difference: The farmers that the people make look like villans are from here. The caring farmers are from Ohio and South Carolina. I agree with the author when he/she says that no one wants to do the farm work. If I was a grown up, I wouldn't want to work in the fields and be unhealthy and hot all the time. I would rather work in an office with air conditioning. I agree with the author's perspective because my family used to own a small farm in Ohio and they were kind to their workers.
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Cara
3/17/2015 09:13:16 am
I agree, Natasha. Who would want to work on the farms on a hot day?
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Violet
3/17/2015 08:07:24 am
I think the authors point of view is the farm workers and the governments . The authors point of view is yin yang I would say . The author talks about how the farmers don't have enough farm workers to tend that many crops . The author also talks about how not many Americans apply for jobs like these . "I can clearly tell you Americans aren't out there willing to do these jobs ," said Carr. I think that the author can't chose witch said they want to be with , but wants the reader to decide witch group or person is correct or incorrect , right or wrong . Though I think the author is yin yang a lot of readers can tell her point of view she mostly sticks to is the farmers who want there workers meaning they want more farm workers . I don't want people in other states to work harder on there farms for us. They should worry about their own states . But they would have to worry about us to if we don't get farm workers to help on the frames that actually are nice to the workers. Would you be a farm worker for the state ? I would.
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Connie
3/17/2015 10:21:13 am
I agree with you, Violet about the part which you wrote that the author's perspective is probably farms not having enough workers in the fields. Though, many Americans aren't that willing to help the farms.
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Leilah
3/17/2015 08:14:11 am
I think the authors point of view in the paragraph is that people are coming into the Unted States without legal documents saying they can actually come into the U.S."Lawmakers cannot agree about letting in more workers from other countries."There are also not enough American farm workers.Carr said "Americans fill only 5 out of every 100 farm jobs.
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Sasha
3/17/2015 01:43:22 pm
I agree with you leilah because the people that are illegal can't be harvesting across the border
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Tommy
3/17/2015 08:17:45 am
I think what the author is trying to say is hard it is to get farm workers legal or ilegaly and how no one wants to get the job I do not feel the way the author feels in some farms they treat their workers badly like in the Harvest of doom many people died their while working in the fields.He said she respected the farm workers but it does not really look like He is telling the turth. The way how he says everything he said does not sound correct and a little mean.
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Cara
3/17/2015 09:12:11 am
I agree, Tommy. NO one wants to get the job b/c the farm owners are treating the workers a little too harsh.
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jacob
3/17/2015 09:43:30 am
i agree i agree the aurthor is trying to say get farm workers legal or ilegaly.
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Aidan
3/17/2015 10:13:45 am
I agree with you Tommy because NO one wants to get the job because the farm owners are treating the farmworkers badly and they don't want to be one of the,
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nola
3/17/2015 08:17:45 am
I think that the authors point of view is that she/he is trying to get the news around about the terrible payment, and conditions that these people get, just because they are immigrant and poor. I think that the author is trying to do something that is kind of like what happened with Martin Luther King Jr. Someone had posted a video of black people getting beaten by the government. The video got around to people of all raises and many of them came to support and march with them. The author of this article could be any raise but it still is important information. This is also like what this guy named Glen GreenWald is doing. He is writing articles about the government and what it is doing. Those are two connections to the article that I thought I should add. The evidence I collected from the article is well actually partly the picture because it shows that they have to work in the blazing Sun for hours. "Lawmakers can't agree about letting in more workers from other countries. Some want immigration laws changed. Others do not.
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nola
3/17/2015 08:20:33 am
OOPS when I said that the owners should act a LITTLE more respectful I meant a LOT more respectful! :)
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jacob
3/17/2015 08:35:14 am
i think the author point of view is he or she is saying that they are getting treated badly. I agree with the author because i think that they are treated unfair. some people want to immigrate. About 450,000 people work in america and it is legal. I will prove it to you in the test it said "About 435,000 people from other countries work on U.S. farms legally, says the government. And they hire ten thousand Spanish speaking country. I will prove it to you in the test it said States like Florida and California are near the border with Mexico. They hire tens of thousands of immigrant workers from Spanish-speaking countries. That is why i agree with the author.
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Benicio Curiel
3/17/2015 08:47:32 am
I kind of agree with you Jacob but the authordidn't really use a point of view.
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Jay
3/17/2015 09:34:31 am
I agree with you Jacob because the borders are not letting immigrants cross if the farms loose a lot of workers there are going to be out of buisness.
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Gavin
3/17/2015 08:42:45 am
I think that the authors point of view is that he/she is getting newspapers just about bad payment,and conditions people get just because they are very poor.I also think the author is trying to do something similar to the thing that M.L.K did.The man said that she respected the farm workers but in the article it didn't seem like he did
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Gavin
3/17/2015 08:48:51 am
Sorry,I accidentally hit submit,anyways I also think that the workers are getting treated very badly and the man lied about treating the woman treating the farm workers good badly.She was treating them horribly!
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Elena
3/17/2015 08:46:07 am
I think that the authors point of view is how she or he cares about the farm workers. I think so because in the NEWSELA the author is mostly pointing out how there is a problem for immigrant workers that have jobs on the farm. At the end of the article it states that they rely on farm workers. She or he cares about opinions but she is strong about her own idea. I agree with the author. They do to much for us. We need to help them. What if all them quit? Who would we have to help us?
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Benicio Curiel
3/17/2015 08:59:04 am
I personally think that the author didn't have a big idea or point of view. The author clearly stated many different ideas and not just one but many problems. But even if the author did have a point of view I would not agree with him or her because the ideas were kind of leaning toward the fact that immigrants shouldn't be working on farms. The author should have included details about on fact at a time. My evidence is "Mother nature cannot wait, when its time to harvest its time to harvest,"said Cunha.
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Celeste
3/17/2015 09:09:40 am
I think that because of all the quotes talking about how much "It has created a problem for farmers around the country" the author supports the idea of immigrants working in the fields. I think that immigrants should be able to cross the border & then work at farms because then they can get a job with some pay instead of no job with no pay.
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Cara
3/17/2015 09:11:01 am
I think the author's prospective in the article is that the farm owners far from the Mexican border need more farmers to harvest. In the article it says, "When we need workers, we have to have them." I agree with the person who said that b/c harvesting can be very tiring and might require more people in order to finish the harvesting. In the passage it also says, " Mother Nature cannot wait. When it's time to harvest, then its time to harvest." Some farms are treating their workers badly. Why would any one ever want to work there if they knew they were going to get treated badly?
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Arlon
3/17/2015 09:40:30 am
I agree with you Cara because 95% of farm workers on farms are immigrants and the 5% is Americans and they sometimes don't show up or they quite on the first day,the Americans I mean.
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JordenTiritilli
3/17/2015 09:12:49 am
I think the authors point of view was that farm-workers are being treated fairly and they should still get new workers.A reason I can explain this is because it is mentioned in the story as Manuel Cunha Jr.(the president of California Nisei Farmers League) said "When we need those workers we have to have them". I feel the same as the author because I believe it is more helpful to have more workers and get more food,but still it puts pressure on the workers.
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jay
3/17/2015 09:32:17 am
I think that the authors point of view is that the farm workers are being treated badly! I agree with the author because they are not letting immigrants because they do not have papers.The farms say that they need more workers. About 450,000 people work in AMERICA and they are immigrants it is legal.I Do not think they should change that law!If they change that law many immigrants are going to loose their jobs!
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Connie
3/17/2015 10:11:47 am
I don't exactly agree with you about the part where you wrote that authors point of view is that the farm workers are being treated badly. I thought the author perspective was that there aren't enough farm workers. However, I too agree with the author about needing more farm workers in the field.
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Ashley
3/17/2015 10:15:50 am
I sort of disagree with you Jay because in the article it never said anything about workers getting treated badly, it said things about farmers not getting enough workers to harvest crops.
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Arlon
3/17/2015 09:37:03 am
The perspective or point of view of the author is probably a farmer considering how he sees how farmers are and how immigrants are the 95% of the workers in farms of the world while Americans only fill up 5% of the jobs at farms.Also how he knows so much about farm workers and how the lawmakers have done absolutely nothing about it.They can't really decide on what to do about it.
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Gael is replying to Arlon
3/17/2015 03:02:59 pm
Arlon I agree on how you say that the perspective of the author is a farmer because he or she the author knows alot about the farming stuff
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Aidan
3/17/2015 09:59:49 am
I think that the author's point of view is that farmworkers are getting treated very badly! I agree with the author because farm owners are not letting immigrants work because they don't have any papers. Over 450 million people work in America and those people are immigrant workers it's legal. If the government changes that law a lot of work farmworkers will lose their jobs.
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Connie
3/17/2015 10:03:37 am
I think the author's perspective of the article is that there are many crops but not enough farm workers to work in the field. In the passage, the author wrote, "In the orchards and fields of South Carolina, farmers need more workers to pick fruit." After all, in most of the article, it was about farms not having enough workers to pick crops. Also, I agree with the author that there is not enough farm workers to grow crops. Though, not many Americans really want to be a farm worker. In the text, it was written, "I can clearly tell you that Americans aren't out there willing to do these jobs.' said Carr." There are bad payment and the farm workers won't have enough money. Also, the farm workers could be treated badly. The people here should know that there are farmers out there working while we study and just buy food and eat. Even though there aren't enough farm workers, we should know that there are still some busy workers working a lot every single day. I think the farm owners should treat their farm workers better to show that they appreciate their hard work.
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Ashley
3/17/2015 10:12:55 am
I agree with you Connie because if the farmers didn't have any immigrants then there will be no fruits and vegetables to eat, the fresh food will rot. We'll also never eat eat healthy without these crops to eat.
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Sarah:)
3/17/2015 02:22:54 pm
I agree, there is many crops, but little farm workers to work. But you wrote that many times in your article. :)
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Aidan
3/17/2015 10:07:54 am
I think that the aurthor's point of view is that the farmworkers are getting treated very badly. I agree with the aurthor because farm owners are not letting immigrant people to work without papers.The farm owners say that they need more farm workers but I don't think they do. About 450,000 people work in America And they are immigrants that is legal. I don't think that the Government should change the law. If they doooo, a lot of farm workers will lose their jobs. If that happens how will farmworkers get money and pay for food and shelter.
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Gael is replying to Aidan
3/17/2015 02:38:14 pm
Aidan I agree cuz if the immigrants don't get their papers signed they are not going to be able to work
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Ashley
3/17/2015 10:09:15 am
I think the author's point of view is to help the farmers to harvest their crops. I think so because in their farms there are not so many immigrants to help them harvest. But the lawmakers can't agree to let anymore immigrants help them harvest any crops. I agree with the author because the farmers need more immigrants to help them gather crops. In the article it said that they the farmers should be thankful for the immigrants for picking crops for them.
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Sarah:)
3/17/2015 02:32:51 pm
I do not agree. I think the author's perspective is that the farmers have so many crops, with little farmers. You think the author's point of view is to help the farmers to harvest their crops. I sort of think it is more important because we should first give the farmers more workers, and then give them more help growing the plants / crops. That is just what I think the author perspective of the article is.
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Justine
3/17/2015 10:26:12 am
I think that the author doesn't think it's okay for people to cross the border illegally, but he understands why people do it. There isn't really any other option. If they cross the border illegally, they can make money in the fields for their family. If they don't, they won't make money. Without money, they won't be able to afford food or even shelter! I agree with the author because it is bad to illegally cross the border, but the people can't do anything else.
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Jaya
3/17/2015 11:54:12 am
I think that the author does not think that it is okay for people illegally crossing the border, but he/she knows and understands why they have to do it. The author understands that if they do not cross the border then their family with suffer. The reason that people cross the border illegally is because they need t go to the farms and work to try and make some money for their family to live on. I agree with the author because I understand that if they do not cross the border (even if they are doing it illegally) they will have no money and themselves and their families will suffer and have no money or food.
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Sasha
3/17/2015 01:44:49 pm
I agree with you leilah because these people are illegal to the country. They can not just cross the border
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Cara
3/17/2015 02:16:48 pm
I agree with you, Jaya. And by the way Sasha, this is Jaya not Leilah.
charlotte
3/17/2015 12:30:12 pm
I think that the author puts a lot of thought to the fact that crops need to harvested but the farms don't have enough farmers to do all of that work. The author is saying that some people want people from the US to start farming but lots of other people say that they know Americans are not willing to do that work. I agree with the author's perspective, because immigrants do all of the farming work not because they want to but because they have to, so if Americans have a choice, of course very few of them will choose to do the work. In the article it said, "'I can clearly tell you Americans aren't out there willing to do these jobs.' Said Carr." The article also said,"'Americans don't want to do this work. It's seasonal. It tends to be low paying.' agreed Mark Gilson." Maybe farm owners can make the farms a little nicer and there might be a chance that some Americans will want to come. Still a very little chance but at least a chance
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Sasha
3/17/2015 01:41:47 pm
I think that the authors point of view is how there are so many farms full of crops however no one to harvest it. They don't have enough farmers so Mexicans illegally cross the border so they can get paid to harvest crops. Also many people quit the jobs after their first day. Think about it, would you want to harvest these crops in the blazing sun and a very low pay such as minimum pay, I think that I wouldn't like it and I would be in a tough position.
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Sarah:)
3/17/2015 02:14:31 pm
I think the author's perspective is that the lawmakers should change the law so that people from other countries can work on farms in the United States. In the article the author states, "It's a problem for farmers. They have crops to be harvested and not enough farmworkers." I sort of agree with the author. I know that the farmworkers from other countries want to work here and make money to take home, however I think that the working conditions are not good here for those workers. They can get sunstroke and they are not paid well. I can make a text to text connection with the "Newsela" that we read before and this one. The previous "Newsela" talked about immigrant children working on farms. This "Newsela" says, "On top of that, there has been a flood of children crossing the border without permission." I am concerned that farmers will hire too many children to work on their farms. Lawmakers need to protect the children first before they protect the farmers.
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Gael
3/17/2015 02:31:39 pm
I think that the author's thinks that the farmers are badly paid treated and there is not enough workers for their farms this is because the author keeps constantly talking about the crisis with immigration. These are the 2 reasons why it is really bad out there. Number 1 Immigrants they are people who illegally come into the state without their papers being signed they usually come because the place they are going to is a better state or country that treats them better and has more stuff such as military,water,food,nice people,and good climate. Ok now that I have said the definition if immigration lets talk about. Most immigrants usually come to do farm work but since there is barely enough because it is illegal they is hardly any new farmers. As it says in the article advertising the farm to work there most people forget to go and some quit on the first day because of heat and low pay. It even says that in the article. The last reason is because well I forgot
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Gato (Lesly)
3/18/2015 03:06:10 pm
The author's point of view about this article is that in the U.S. there are not enough farmworkers to work on the fields. He feels the immigrant farmworkers are the ones that are willing to take care of the crops. I know this because in the article it says that Chalmers Carr, who owns the largest East Coast peach grower farms says that "there's truly not enough farm workers now, legal or illegal". Another evidence is that the government report in South Carolina states that immigrant workers are taking the short-term jobs but there is still a shortage or farmworkers.The author also says that Americans do not want to do farm work. For example, in one farm, they advertised for 2,000 workers but only 432 appllied and less than 25% were Americans. 390 of the applicants did not show up or quit. Also, the author states that the immigration laws are not helping with this problem. In conclusion, I think the author feels that we defenitely need migrant farmworkers and the law should be changed to help with this problem.
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